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Frozen: Not Gonna "Let It Go" When Movie Advocates Gay Agenda

The gay agenda to normalize homosexuality is woven into Disney's movie Frozen not just as an underlying message - it is the movie. In a liberal culture tenacious at normalizing immorality, stripping those of faith from their ability to speak out in opposition, this needs to be taken seriously. It's one thing that we've all donated to the cause by making Frozen a record-breaking hit at the box office (myself included), but that's as far it's going, for me, personally.

I wrote the main body of this post nearly three months ago, after I watched Frozen, with most of my grandchildren. Since then, I've had a few discussions with friends and family about the movie, prior to deciding to publish it, with little support for my findings. That, and watching Frozen receive more and more accolades, including many from trusted resources, and observing the ongoing rise in the movie's popularity, without significant challenge. 




And finally, this, from the LDS community, the last straw, watched over 10 million times since it was posted on YouTube, February 13th.


Video: Alex Boyé - Frozen - Let it Go





If you are seriously clueless as to what I'm talking about then it is imperative, particularly for morally minded parents, that you read this post and open your eyes to the homosexual agenda, and the principles advanced to promote it, that undergird Frozen, which is why it was written for Broadway and will indubitably be a hit - mark my words!

Have you seen the video with four-year-old twins singing "Let It Go"- near perfect? With the help of media outlets, such as The Huffington Post (not clueless) and KSL.com (hopefully clueless), mainstream media is helping to advocate Frozen's message by jumping on the popularity bandwagon. While most watching this video, likely found it adorable, I shed tears.



Video: An Innocent Child Sings "Let it Go"




In the making of Disney's movie, Frozen, it is apparent that the very best talent, within the industry, was called upon for every facet of producing and bringing it to the big screen: illustrators; animators; writers; composers; singing artist; actors; etc., in order to woo its intended audience, parents, into a frozen-state, which would then allow liberalism to indoctrinate children.

The fact is, that not one of us would allow a person, contrary to our values, to come into our homes and teach our family many of the principles advocated in the movie Frozen - such as rebellion/disobedience - as good. Yet, when the same element cunningly creates a medium within to share the same doctrine, which intensely overwhelms the senses, we are blinded - and rather than put on glasses, we allow ourselves to be mesmerized by the overall experience - focusing only on the good that we see, or perceive, highlighted for our viewing pleasure.

However, as light and dark, or fear and faith cannot exist in the same space, good and evil do, here in mortality. Therefore, we must be wise - especially parents. When good is used to advance evil, we must reject it and state why, if we desire to be light.

When mainstream society comes to the point where it celebrates that which is contrary to the commandments, taught in a movie presumably made for children, by awarding it the highest accolades within its culture, and good parents don't perceive it, but rather endorse it unwittingly, we are in serious trouble. And you can bet that those we have to thank are laughing themselves all the way to the bank, while mocking the religious ignorant.

Entertainment, with all of its mediums, has more power than just about anything else to effectively indoctrinate and influence society, negatively, and among the most vulnerable of its victims are children. 

To Christian parents, who don't support the legalization of SSM, or the normalization of same-sex sexual behavior, oppositional to God, I feel strongly that we must become more aware of how liberal media advocate these messages. It is often accomplished through infiltrating mainstream channels with the specific attitudes and ideologies necessary to advance these practices, as progressive, within mainstream society.

If good parents fail to accept that progressivism is strongly behind the entertainment industry, then we risk being, unknowingly, undermined as parents. Coupled with the power of media, and social media, to advance much of what is contrary to Christian values, by brilliantly marketing their message, as popular, inviting our aid as Christians, we also fail society.

If you feel you've been duped by the surface story of the movie Frozen, try not to feel too bad. The way in which Frozen wraps up the false doctrine perpetuated throughout the film, is as skillfully done as I have ever seen it, which makes calling it out and not being labeled crazy difficult. Nevertheless, after months of vacillating over whether I wanted to share my thoughts, broadly, with a bit of encouragement from only one friend, I've finally decided to just do it, regardless of the high approval ratings for the movie, which most are insistent to retain.


Are we okay with memorializing through accolades something that advocates what is clearly oppositional to God, because it is perfectly packaged?

Ironically, I've seen Frozen three times. Not because I necessarily wanted to, but because I had three sets of grandchildren who I committed to take to see the movie when it initially came out. And as it worked out it was at different times and places. I won't deny, either, that I enjoyed watching the movie every single time, for a number of reasons. It actually gave me a good opportunity to confirm my initial reaction, and in so doing, I could blatantly see that the homosexual agenda, to normalize the practice, was not simply an underlying message in the movie Frozen, but is the actual story.

The process of normalizing homosexual behavior in society is going to require more than the liberal media saying it is so - which they do all the time - or activist judges legalizing same-sex marriage in one state after another. It's going to require the indoctrination of our children, in order to lead their generation to the next, necessary, level of mainstream social acceptance.

Remember, that in today's liberal society allowing almost anything, even legalizing it, in the name of "love" trumps sin - it's that powerful of an ideology. And that my friends, is exactly what Disney is selling your children, while you unknowingly standby and watch.

I know what some think, because I questioned myself, initially, and I've heard it multiple times when even lightly expressing my feelings about the movie, with others. You think that I've read way too much into it, because I'm sensitive to homosexual issues, or perhaps a bit paranoid. I get that, seeing as I've written about homosexuality, same-sex marriage and preserving traditional marriage, frequently, here on WBMW. 

But stay with me... If you've seen the movie, you should be able to recognize what I'm talking about and hopefully begin to make the connection, and perhaps see others I don't go into here.

It was during the first time I watched Frozen that the plot/subplot burst out at me and right through what most everyone else was mesmerized by (music, animation, etc.), and actually stunned me, causing me to question the impression, and try to move past it.  But, what I clearly came to realize, was that I was watching a completely different movie than what was visually dancing across the screen in all of its made-for-the-stage splendor. It was surreal. I knew this, immediately. It was like being in two places, experiencing two vastly different movies, that were visually identical. When I left the theater that evening, I was quiet with my response, knowing that if I shared my experience it would immediately be minimized. 

I felt confident in that moment, as I still do, and you can mark my words: when Frozen goes to Broadway it will break records and be among the biggest hits of all time! 

I have no problem with those who find the homosexual messaging good, or important for society, from their perspective. However, I'm not okay that too many parents, who would not normally support the normalization of homosexual behavior, seem to be completely blind to its advocacy throughout a children's movie, and are in fact gushing over Frozen. I just don't believe that with full disclosure they would feel to continue. And yet, I also acknowledge the beauty, used in every facet of the movie, which has captivated, or rather frozen audiences, everywhere. 


Sidebar: Let me be very clear about one thing, I am not anti-gay nor am I here to judge homosexuals not worthy of their rightful and respectful place among society. However, I draw the line at the idea of redefining traditional marriage to include homosexual relationships, as equal. Meaning, that as a Christian, I believe that acting on same-sex attraction is contrary to God's will, and therefore SSM should not be legalized. Because I hold this value and voice it freely, does not mean that I am trying to force it on anyone - anymore than those who feel opposite and advocate for their position intend to force SSM on me, personally - both have the right [to freely advocate an oppositional position] and should not be demonized, regardless of where society takes us, as a whole.

With that said, here is a brief summary of only 'some' of the gay messaging found in the movie Frozen, intended to advocate the homosexual agenda to legalize same-sex marriage and normalize the practice: 




Elsa has a great power that she has been taught by her parents from the time she was a child, is not publicly acceptable and that she must fear its expression, at all cost, thus hide it from people, even her own sister who could be hurt by it - even killed. Shame is at the core of Elsa's feelings about her magical powers: same-sex attraction.

As Elsa’s power increases, her parents’ urge her to learn how to control it, as it would be perceived as evil to others, but Elsa can't; it's impossible. Her parents' make the decision to close the castle to the public, and lock Elsa in her room so that her power won’t be discovered. Not even her sister is allowed to see and play with Elsa: demonetization of homosexuals by society.

Elsa is devastatingly lonely and depressed being forced to live a life of isolation, believing her powers to be evil. Her sister, kept from the truth, and affected by the inflicted secrecy also becomes victim to the dysfunction of her family and experiences equal isolation and confusion: not "coming out" and being who you are meant to be (acting on the power) is harmful to the person, family and society.

The parents are killed in an accident while traveling abroad (expendable and best out of the way for progression - represent authority), which means that Elsa must take her rightful position among her people, as queen. (Right to be queen: make what you want out of this one.) To do so, she faces great fear in going out publicly for her coronation, worrying that her powers might show because she has no control over them: rejects the ability of those with same-gender attraction to control behavior. 

While at the same time her sister, Anna, is beyond thrilled at the opportunity to go outside, make friends and perhaps even meet her special someone and have her happily-ever-after: heterosexuals are free to pursue happiness through sexual relationships and gays are not - making them unequal in society.

The gates are opened - Elsa is terrified that people will see through her and that her power will show itself, regardless of what she has done to hide it. (Stay in the closet.) Anna, on the other hand, burst through the gate and experiences joy in being out in the open and meets someone whom she immediately falls in love with: heterosexuals are free to pursue happiness, without restriction. Insinuating that heterosexuals don't value marriage in the way those who work at preserving traditional marriage say that they do. No-fault divorce, as one example, is seen as evidence of this lack of care.

After only a brief interaction, Anna and Hans decide to marry. Elsa is freaked out that her sister wants to marry someone she only just met: heterosexuals diminish marriage, freely given to them without judgment of any kind - SSM can't do any more harm. 

In her anger at her sister's irresponsible behavior, Elsa orders the gates shut, again, and her sister's new fiancé to leave and not return. Anna, is totally confused and begins to oppose Elsa, who becomes even angrier and sees that she is loosing control of her power. Feeling the need to run and hide, Anna, while trying to discuss the matter with her sister, becomes the cause of Elsa's power being exposed, in front of everyone. In shame, she runs away to hide.






Now, this is a significant turn-around-message, because the gay movement consider themselves victims, enslaved by the judgments of religious pro-heterosexual marriage advocates who keep them from what they want and which they believe demonize the gay lifestyle. So, in essence, they consider themselves "frozen,” not able to live their lives out-loud, and freely, however they choose in mainstream society - no moral absolutes.

As expected, the town's people fear Elsa's misunderstood power, and her, and some begin to call her dangerous/evil and want to do away with her. Sister disagrees she is dangerous and sets off to find Elsa, who has gone up into the mountains leaving behind utter destruction in the town, which she's not aware that her power, hidden, has caused.










Elsa, away from those who witnessed her power, afraid and thinking her evil, is relieved to finally stop the charade and be in a place where she can finally be herself. While away, and alone, she blossoms physically and creatively, and emotionally is happy to be free. She is now able to openly use her power to create new surroundings, which are beyond what she realized her powers could accomplish - and it is stunningly beautiful! She never wants to go back to that prison and thinks that living a life in isolation, with freedom to be whom she is, is best for her and everyone. In this way, 'she' won't hurt anyone.



She is found by her sister, but rejects her - even hurts her and orders her away! Anna tells her that she is affecting everyone even though she left and has no intention of going back. Townspeople who sought her out to do away with the evil find her, she resorts to acting out of fear, and her powers come out again, more negatively. Elsa responds by using her powers to hurt those she says she doesn't want to hurt. She is totally confused and again frightened that she can't control the extent of how her power expresses itself.

More distorted messaging, by making society, or those considered homophobic/bigots the cause of the homosexual's "frozen" state. Because gays have no control over their same-sex preference, to expect moral behavior is unloving, cruel and ignorant, because what you’re asking is impossible. Being the victims of such abuse, they are forced to seek refuge in loneliness, in order to be who they are. It goes further though, in suggesting that society is hurt when homosexuality is not embraced suggesting further that such resistance is an inability, or unwillingness to love others. Bigotry. Conservative society is the block to homosexual freedom within society.




As the movie comes to a close, love, becomes the healing factor and without false judgment, ignorance and fear, by society, having been made to see themselves as Elsa's problem (and not Elsa), she is now able to suddenly control the negative use of her power. In fact, she is actually able to now use it to benefit society - the power of unconditional love. 

For me, this is probably one of the most disturbing messages of the movie, Frozen, and of course, the bottom line in the twisted marketing to normalize homosexual behavior and legitimize same-sex marriage in society: the opposition to it is the problem - you.

Love, or romance, is at the heart of the quest for the legalization of SSM, as a human-right. Period. The equality argument is that those who oppose SSM are saying that homosexuals can't equally love, as heterosexuals, or that their love is less than what two heterosexuals feel for each other and thus legalize through "marriage.” For society to continue to bar gays from being married is to say that they are not capable of loving another person, in the same way as two heterosexuals. This narrow campaign is intended to completely disregard the exponential effects of children denied their natural birthright to have both a mother and a father. And when questioned about it, retort by claiming it more evidence of said discrimination, a.k.a, bigotry, hate, intolerance, etc.

This is the simplistic, and selfish, basis for marriage being deemed an equal right, which marriage only between a man and a woman implies by its exclusivity. And the reasons: ignorance, homophobia and discrimination in the same vein as the civil rights argument.

There is so much more that is easily drawn out of the movie Frozen, which illustrates the liberal advocacy to normalize homosexuality in society, by making society the problem and not the moral wrong that homosexual behavior/lifestyle, in fact, is. 

Oh, and did you happen to catch the gay partner of the guy up at the lodge selling supplies to Hans, in the sauna with their kids? If you blinked, you probably missed it.  By popular vote, it seems as though I was terribly wrong about this interpretation. Apparently, this is some guy and his wife, who only looks like one of the other children, but it's not. Who knew? 

For those who would say that if you look for something hard enough you can find it, in just about anything, so be it. For those who saw a completely different, uplifting message in Frozen, that's great. Or any other positive and uplifting message you found to focus on in Frozen, which caused you to miss what the movie was really about, that's good. I'm not here to necessarily take any of that way; I'm here to challenge it though.

My main purpose, in being so bold, is to encourage parents to be mindful of liberal messaging in popular, mainstream media - even Disney. If parents are aware that it exists, pervasively, they will become more efficient in identifying it, thus better able to re-direct how their children internalize the message, or could - age appropriate.

How sad would it be, for diligent parents, who teach correct principles in the raising of their children, to find that their children, as they grow up, have developed, through mainstream social acceptance, unchallenged, these negative attitudes toward obedience, respect and moral absolutes. I believe it is wise to avoid parenting by assumption: assuming your children think and feel the same as you. 

I also feel confident that we can identify false teachings, without demonizing individuals for making choices contrary to what we value and advocating for them in society.

Briefly, let's look at the very popular song from Frozen, which is now memorized by the vast majority of young children, who sing it at the tops of their lungs. 

The song, "Let It Go" intends to send a strong, liberating gay message, but interestingly, many have dubbed it a theme song for letting general fears go, which keep us from doing good, or overcoming negative aspects in our lives. 

However, in the actual lyrics of the song, that is not what it is saying. The message of "Let it Go" is specifically intended to rebel against moral absolutes, which have governed society for centuries, now being viewed by a progressive agenda as antiquated.


Disney Movie, Frozen: Let it Go






Lyrics: "Let It Go,” by Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez (Italics added for emphasis of homosexual messaging/attitudes mocked.)

The snow glows white on the mountain tonight
Not a footprint to be seen
A kingdom of isolation
And it looks like I'm the queen

The wind is howling like this swirling storm inside
Couldn't keep it in, Heaven knows I tried

Don't let them in, don't let them see
Be the good girl you always have to be
Conceal, don't feel, don't let them know
Well, now they know


Let it go, let it go
Can't hold it back anymore
Let it go, let it go
Turn away and slam the door
I don't care what they're going to say
Let the storm rage on
The cold never bothered me anyway

It's funny how some distance makes everything seem small
And the fears that once controlled me can't get to me at all
It's time to see what I can do
To test the limits and break through
No right, no wrong, no rules for me
I'm free


Let it go, let it go
I'm one with the wind and sky
Let it go, let it go
You'll never see me cry
Here I stand and here I'll stay
Let the storm rage on


My power flurries through the air into the ground
My soul is spiraling in frozen fractals all around
And one thought crystallizes like an icy blast
I'm never going back, the past is in the past

Let it go, let it go
And I'll rise like the break of dawn
Let it go, let it go
That perfect girl is gone
Here I stand in the light of day
Let the storm rage on

The cold never bothered me anyway


Of note, Robert Lopez is credited for much of the award winning music in The Book of Mormon musical. In other words, these two lyricists know how to write strong messages to both mock opposition to what they advocate, in order to sway public perceptions and attitudes they oppose.

The words to "Let it Go" are clearly not Christian-values friendly, by any stretch of the imagination, when understood and heard. This is not an innocent song, with a catchy tune. It is rebellious. It mocks moral absolutes. It is careless. It is unaccountable. It is anti-obedience. It is regardless. It is selfish. And if you still disagree, then by all means, feel free to show me how I've misinterpreted the lyrics.

And this is only one song from the soundtrack to Frozen, intended to indoctrinate your children, and/or grandchildren, contrary to faith-based teachings. You might find it interesting, or not, but just recently the song writers have been giving interviews intended to cloud the messaging behind their lyrics, with absolutely no reference to homosexuality being their inspiration. Really? So perhaps (I hope), people are now starting to question Frozen, and these types of responses could very well be intended to make people, like me, out to be more of what they mock in the Frozen music lyrics: fearful, bigots, homophobic, and now, paranoid.

Now, if you're having a problem grasping what I'm saying here, check out this pro-progressive article, sent over by a friend who found it, after I shared some of my thoughts about Frozen, with her, which takes the time to extract some of the 'positive' messages found in Frozen to advocate their causes: 7 Moments That Made 'Frozen' the Most Progressive Disney Movie Ever.


2/21 Update: Frozen: My Response to Outrageous Reaction

tDMg

Kathryn Skaggs


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  1. "Let me be very clear about one thing, I am not anti-gay nor am I here to judge homosexuals not worthy of their rightful and respectful place among society."

    I'm glad you added this, as the rest of your paranoia here seems to exclaim quite the opposite.

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  2. You can see Frozen as that, or you can see it this way: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/27/was-this-animated-film-the-most-the-most-christian-movie-of-2013/
    I'm neither agreeing, or disagreeing with your statements, but sometimes there is more than one way to look at a situation.

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  3. Does it get exhausting carrying that much hatred and bigotry around all the time?

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  4. Can I make a suggestion for future posts? Please try to write with a little more concision. This post could have conveyed your ideas and position in about 1/5 of the words.

    Anyway, this rant reminds me of the people in the 1970's who thought there were Satanic messages to be found when the vinyl records of popular music were played backwards. I feel bad for anyone who sees a nefarious boogy men in Disney cartoons. That's a hard, scary life to live.

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  5. My own comments (that parallel yours):

    I noticed strong themes of Rogerian humanism. throughout the film. Rogerian humanism is, in my mind, almost the precise opposite of Christianity, and the Rogerian humanism in Frozen strongly outweighs whatever (dubious) Christian themes do exist.

    The gist of Rogerian humanism is this: All evil in the world, all psychological, mental, and emotional malaise, is due to the fact that we aren’t being our true selves. It is due to the fact, for fear of judgment from others, we are hiding parts of ourselves from the world. We are not fully expressing our innermost desires. We are stifling them to make ourselves fit into an externally imposed program or system of values. Those values may be imposed upon us by parents, by religious systems, by schools, by society and culture at large. And these externally imposed values bring with them the threat of judgment, and therefore keep us from being “true to ourselves.” This is why there is misery in the world.

    The solution, according to Rogerian humanism, is what he called “unconditional positive regard,” which as a therapeutic term means that the therapist offers the client no moral judgment of any kind (positive or negative), but simply reaffirms the value of the individual. This creates a “safe place” for the individual to experiment with being their true selves. As their true selves emerge, and as they learn to truly embrace their innermost desires (regardless of whether they clash with the values of the parents, religion, or community, and perhaps especially if they do), they will learn to extend the same unconditional positive regard for others. Eventually, we can rid ourselves of the moral and religious superstitions that teach us to hide our true selves, and become truly ourselves, fully living and enacting our deepest desires without fear of judgment. For example, the Rogerian theme dominates the movement to embrace same-sex attraction and activity, in therapy and in politics.

    The Rogerian account is the antithesis of Christianity — it denies the fall, and insists that any cultural, religious, or societal structure that does not acknowledge and affirm an individuals’ differing desires, inclinations, or values is the source of human problems. And where there is no sin, there is no need for Christ; where there is no fall, there is no need for redemption; and where following the innermost, forbidden desires of one’s heart is the only path towards genuine personhood, there is no need for discipleship.

    To me, Frozen tells the Rogerian story, not the Christian story. It tells the story of a girl who has inner desires — in true C.S. Lewis fairy tale fashion, those inner desires are manifest in an external reality as the ability to control ice — and her parents and perhaps even her religious system tells her to stifle them, to hide them, to never act on them. And *this* is what creates all of the hardship that follows. *This* is the root of evil. Hans, a greedy selfish pretender, does not demonstrate in true Christian fashion that pride and selfishness are the root of all evil — no, he is simply a red herring, and it is the stifling of Elsa’s differences that is the root of evil. And the movie is not a story of Christian redemption. It is not a story of redemption from sin by the salvific powers of Christ and learning, through His grace, to walk the path discipleship — it is a journey of self-discovery, a journey of learning to express and embrace the characteristics/desires that were formerly forbidden by the parents or community.

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  6. Here's another blogger who agrees with you: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/steven-greydanus/so-how-gay-is-disneys-frozen/

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  7. Hmmm... The phrase "jumped the shark" comes to mind. And coming from a guy that views most the content on this blog as extremist already, that's saying something.

    Sister Skaggs, when you have a hammer in your hand, everything looks like a nail.

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  8. Wow! I can't wait for your analysis of the Lego Movie!

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  9. It must be really exhausting to constantly feel like the world is constantly attacking you. Even Disney movies that are benign have become a trigger. I honestly don't know how to put this more kindly, but you are obviously delusional. These delusions of persecutions are really telling...

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  10. Interestingly enough, over the Thanksgiving holiday when we took the grandkids to the movie...my oldest, mother of 3 young ones---casually stated, immediately upon exit, her same concerns about this movie. I, the wise ol' grandma, didn't catch it. My daughter, one who is very concerned about raising her children in the world today, first noticed it in the words of the song, as you stated. After mentioning this movie as a pro-gay marriage movie, she then said, 'Maybe I'm just being too sensitive about the subject. " I didn't feel she was, and took her words and observations to heart. She was not being too sensitive. Thank you for this post.

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    1. Out of the mouths of babes... Thank you, for sharing that with me. It means so very much. <3

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    2. I take it, Ms. Skaggs, that you hate gay people. I great number of Latter-Day Saints especially in Utah and California share in hour hatred of people who are gay. I take it you will teach your children to hate gay people. I take it you will make sure your grandchildren know that gay people must be put to death just like it says in Leviticus. The shallowness of the LDS Church and its treatment of the gay community by people like yourself creates a huge wedge between faith and practice. Plenty of Latter-Day Saints say they love God and love their neighbors but few actually practice the latter portion when it comes to non-LDS, non-Caucasian, non-heterosexual individuals. I've seen the bigotry in Utah. I live in the middle of the LDS capital city of Provo. People like yourself trying to find whatever your can in the media to use against the LGBT community for the purpose of creating a war against gay people and furthering the Mormon agenda to dehumanize and eradicate people who identify as part of the LGBT community or same-sex attracted or whatever.

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  11. I felt that the movie Frozen is more about a girl who survives and moves on from a past filled with emotional abuse. I grew up in a spiritually abusive religion, and I feel a strong connection to Elsa's story about overcoming a childhood filled with people who use fear, guilt and shame to compel obedience. The message of the movie is about accepting who you are and finding a way to love yourself when the people around you relentlessly tell you how worthless and broken you are. I would love to see my kids internalize such a good message and "let go" of the fear, shame and guilt that people use to control them.

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  12. This is one of the few Disney movies that gets our solid stamp of approval. We are born-and-raised Mormons, fervent supporters of marriage equality, and we think the hysteria over the supposed "gay agenda" (like, oh no, what if they actually get married and have kids and pay the bills and go grocery shopping...just like the rest of us) is much overblown. We believe that families are sacred--all of them.

    Peace out.

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  13. I'm stunned and embarrassed by your conclusions. Elsa represents ANYBODY who feels like they are told to be someone they aren't. Not just gay people!

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  14. Really, this is beyond absurd. Please stop giving us Mormons a bad name.

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  15. Damn! You figured us liberals out. Good job!

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  16. Interesting. I will have to look into this.

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  17. You have a completely obscured view of the world. This was a children's movie about love and understanding. I'm a pretty liberal LDS woman but this is going a bit too far! I feel your thought process is really a complicated mental issue.

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  18. I mean no offense, but it seems like you don't know much about the Church's stance on homosexuality/same-sex attraction beyond "being gay is a sin," when there's actually a lot more to it than that. The Church has an official website on the issue, http://mormonsandgays.org. Looking around that site might help you learn a bit more. Another good site (though not run by the Church) is http://ldsvoicesofhope.org, a site where active LDS members with same-sex attraction (or other related issues) share their stories with the world. I hope you can take a look at these sites and learn more about the issue. c:

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  19. Thank you for providing the link to the Alex Boye video. I loved it & wanted to watch it again.

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  20. Kathryn, this post is ridiculous. Here are a few reasons why:

    1) Disney's Frozen is based off of a centuries-old tale called "The Ice Queen." It was not concocted by the liberal media to force people into believing something they don't. Take it at face value, which is how it is meant.
    2) You said, "...As a Christian, I believe that acting on same-sex attraction is contrary to God's will, and therefore SSM should not be legalized." In fact, more and more Christian denominations are embracing the fact that gay men and women are equal instead of subordinate as you believe (Episcopalians, Unitarians, the Pope, etc.). You mean as a Mormon, which makes up about .5% of the world's population (and, therefore, a significant minority compared to LGBT individuals which make up 5-10%). So by that logic, temple marriage should be illegal as well, because 99.5% of the population doesn't "believe" in it.
    3. You're spreading more hate and bile than you are "Christian morals" by posting your bigoted views than you are spreading "the good news" of what the Gospel is supposed to be: love.

    So next time, before you spew your hateful views about a wonderful childhood movie and the "evils" it represents, realize you are hurting more than you are helping. Realize that, chances are (statistically speaking) at least one or two of your children or grandchildren are probably gay, and by writing this you are promoting the actions that cause thousands of gay Mormon teens each year to commit suicide...which could ultimately be one of your descendants.

    Also, instead of saying you're not "anti gay" out of one side of your mouth while saying things like "The homosexuals (a derogatory phrase in and of itself) are acting contrary to God's will," take yourself for what you are, a bigoted, brainwashed, self-proclaimed Christian who wouldn't know love and kindness if it bit her in the leg.

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  21. Repeat after me:
    Paranoid
    And
    Persecution complex

    Just goes to show that Mormons can't but help and see sex and gay everywhere. It is like they are obsessed. They can't even leave it out of children's movies.

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  22. Do you want to know who else had secret powers they kept hidden? Superman, Batman, Cinderella, just about every mythical character ever. And you do realize how many Disney characters have parents who are dead? About 75% of them. You're reading into things that aren't there. At all. And this coming from someone who got her Masters degree from BYU in musical/theatrical history and critique.

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  23. I agree with the message behind it, but there is not way that people will read this and feel like you are not bashing the gay community. And in the spa, there is a mom, and dad, and 3 kids, the mom has her towel all the way around her breast, as they do in movies.

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  24. You remind me of a few quotes:
    “It is common knowledge that the Civil Rights Movement is Communist controlled, influenced and dominated…" -Ezra Taft Benson

    "I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after. He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage. That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'." -Apostle Mark E. Peterson

    Please don't equate conservatism and church membership. There are many faithful members of the church who support equal rights, including BIll Marriott (hotel owner), Harry Reid, Jon Huntsman, and even Mitt Romney. (http://www.thewire.com/politics/2012/06/how-proud-romney-was-be-pro-gay-rights-1994/53920/)

    You confuse religious beliefs with our the laws of our country. How easy is it for Mormons to claim persecution for religious beliefs and then turn around to impose their beliefs on the rest of the country. Have we not learned anything?

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  25. You remind me of a few quotes:
    “It is common knowledge that the Civil Rights Movement is Communist controlled, influenced and dominated…" -Ezra Taft Benson

    "I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after. He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage. That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'." -Apostle Mark E. Peterson

    Please don't equate conservatism and church membership. There are many faithful members of the church who support equal rights, including BIll Marriott (hotel owner), Harry Reid, Jon Huntsman, and even Mitt Romney. (http://www.thewire.com/politics/2012/06/how-proud-romney-was-be-pro-gay-rights-1994/53920/)

    You confuse religious beliefs with our the laws of our country. How easy is it for Mormons to claim persecution for religious beliefs and then turn around to impose their beliefs on the rest of the country. Have we not learned anything?

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  26. Dear well behaved Mormon woman,
    Please accept a challenge to spend about as much time as you have in pondering and preparing this article in actually getting to know or maybe even understand an LGBT brother or sister and find a way to show true Christian love to them. You clearly have a lot of energy and passion around this issue, but until you've spent some time mourning with those that mourn or walking an extra mile with those of us who actually deal with these issues personally, please stop claiming to understand, particularly under an assumption that you are somehow more holy for your perspective or defending it.
    In the quiet heart is hidden sorrow that the eye can't see. If you would spend one ounce of your fervor an actually ministering to one of the gay people in your life, you might find a better understanding of God's will and love when it comes to this issue.

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  27. this is f'ing crazy and smacks of projection

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  28. For not being anti-gay, you sure tossed around some offensive remarks, such as:

    "Right to be queen: make what you want out of this one."

    "...nor am I here to judge homosexuals NOT WORTHY OF THEIR RIGHTFUL AND RESPECTFUL PLACE AMONG SOCIETY."

    Besides that, no, you're not crazy. You're spot on. I saw similar gay themes in the film - and welcomed them with open arms. It wonderfully reinforces to our children that bullying is NOT okay.

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  29. Sister Skaggs, thank you for your post. So many people sit silently and therefore sin by omission. These are, indeed, the last days. This is just another step of descent into immorality that will finally bring about the Second Coming. This isn't the first time our society has been attacked in this manner. We are reliving history. Multiple prophets and Priesthood Leaders foresaw the racial agenda creeping into our lives. They spoke against it as well and warned about it unceasingly. Unfortunately, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed and it negated their ability to stop the societal destruction brought on by acceptance of the evils of racial integration. I even see interracial couples getting married in the temple now. Brigham Young would weep.

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  30. I think your analysis of the movie's message is spot on.

    Which is exactly what makes it an incredible movie. As an active, temple recommend holding Mormon, I took my kids to see it twice, and we'll be buying it the day it comes out.

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  31. I agree with your assessment of the movie's real message. Which is why I find the movie incredible and inspiring.

    As an active, temple recommend holding member, I took my kids to see this movie twice and we'll be buying it as soon as it comes out on DVD.

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  32. So, you're not anti-gay, but you're also anti-gay?

    Make up your damn mind!

    People like you are why nobody takes religion seriously a nymore.

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  33. A small sidebar that says you are not anti-gay means nothing in a long post demonizing a movie for having a gay agenda.

    The us vs then mentality that prevails in this post is harmful, especially to those who are gay and grow up in families where this kind of mentality is present. It leads to alienation and high suicide rates. Try looking up stats and the correlation between youth homelessness, suicide rates and homosexuality in Utah.

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  34. A small sidebar that says you are not anti-gay means nothing in a long post demonizing a movie for having a gay agenda.

    The us vs then mentality that prevails in this post is harmful, especially to those who are gay and grow up in families where this kind of mentality is present. It leads to alienation and high suicide rates. Try looking up stats and the correlation between youth homelessness, suicide rates and homosexuality in Utah.

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  35. I couldn't even read this entire post. What absolute drivel. Between your paranoia and many egregious spelling errors, it's truly painful to read. It must be sad and scary in your world.

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  36. Wow! I'm so sorry that you would dedicate so much of your time and life to writing something so judgmental. Frozen is based on Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen. Was he in on the evil gay agenda too? You are so homophobic that you are seeing YOUR own bigotry EVERYWHERE, even in innocent century old fairy tales. This is a crazy stretch of the imagination. God bless. I hope you can Let It Go....your hatred that is.

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  37. As a fellow Mormon, nutjobs like you give the rest of us a bad name.

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  38. My thoughts to the author: What you’ve just written is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent rant were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this post is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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  39. My thoughts to the author: What you’ve just written is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent rant were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this post is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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  40. Wow! This is ridiculous! Your homophobia is blinding your ability to think reasonably and logically. Hans Christian Andersen wrote The Snow Queen, which Frozen is based on, over a century ago. Was he in on the gay agenda too? This has religious zealot written all over it. God Bless. It's a great movie. I hope you can find a way to Let It Go.

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  41. after the movie ended, my two children immediately started dating people of their same gender.. Jesus is now going to send them to hell because an ETERNITY of suffering is a FAIR and JUST punishment for a TEMPORAL crime in a time span that amounts to nothing when compared to eternity. god loves all his children, except the gay ones.

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  42. The gay agenda...not sure what that is other than being able to be protected by laws that protect heterosexuals. Gays aren't asking for anything more than you want. If that offends you well I'm sorry. Studies show that the definition of right and wrong varies even with persons of the same religion, i.e., Mormonism. So sad that a group of people who are fighting to simply have the same joys in life without being excluded and misjudged at every turn continues to be persecuted by someone who clearly claims to be a follower of Christ who said "Judge not" and who condemned not the adultress caught in the act. Mighty bold of you.

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  43. Your ignorance and hate will be archived for all the ages to see. Soon you will be viewed as nothing more than the exact same bigoted, hateful people who wanted to deny equal rights to blacks.

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  44. I think you seriously over-thought the plot line. There was no hidden message or agenda. I could do the same thing with just about every movie that exists. Pick one, you can even choose a pro LDS movie produced with good intent and for the well being of the church. I can find hidden, evil messages inside of it.

    "Elsa has a great power that she has been taught by her parents, from the time she was a child, is not publicly acceptable and that she must fear its expression, at all cost, thus hide it from people, even her own sister who could be hurt by it - even killed. Shame is at the core of Elsa's feelings about her magical powers: same-sex attraction."

    How many parents teach their children that sex is evil, that it must never be expressed, at all cost, and that sexuality must be hidden from people? Tons. Many of the children being raised in the Mormon community have forgotten how to be sexual, even when they are married.

    "As Elsa’s power increases, her parents’ urge her to learn how to control it, as it would be perceived as evil to others, but Elsa can't - it's impossible. Her parents' make the decision to close the castle to the public, and lock Elsa in her room, so that her power won’t be discovered. Not even her sister is allowed to see and play with Elsa"

    Oh no, she got older, and hormones are now raging for her heterosexual feelings. By locking the poor girl in the castle, she won't run the risk of being exposed to pornography, sexuality, passion, and love from someone outside the family circle. Her hormones may cause her to influence her younger sister to become a hussy. Her parents urged her to control her hormones and emotions, but, being a teenager, she couldn't.

    I could keep going for every comment you made, but I won't. People find messages in books and movies based on what is in their head and their heart. Though you say "Let me be very clear about one thing, I am not anti-gay nor am I here to judge homosexuals not worthy of their rightful and respectful place among society..." the thoughts of your heart say otherwise. I encourage you to enjoy the movie for what it is. A plot line. A rather boring plot line at that and very similar to just about every fairytale. A princess gets locked in a castle/home/tower/whatever and has to be rescued (Rapunzel, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Beauty and the Beast, etc). I bet the target audience (young children) for the movie never once thought that there was a hidden message behind it.

    I fear you will live a sad and bitter life if you keep looking for everything that is wrong with the world. Start focusing on things that are right and enjoy them, for life is short.


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  45. I think you seriously over-thought the plot line. There was no hidden message or agenda. I could do the same thing with just about every movie that exists. Pick one, you can even choose a pro LDS movie produced with good intent and for the well being of the church. I can find hidden, evil messages inside of it.

    "Elsa has a great power that she has been taught by her parents, from the time she was a child, is not publicly acceptable and that she must fear its expression, at all cost, thus hide it from people, even her own sister who could be hurt by it - even killed. Shame is at the core of Elsa's feelings about her magical powers: same-sex attraction."

    How many parents teach their children that sex is evil, that it must never be expressed, at all cost, and that sexuality must be hidden from people? Tons. Many of the children being raised in the Mormon community have forgotten how to be sexual, even when they are married.

    "As Elsa’s power increases, her parents’ urge her to learn how to control it, as it would be perceived as evil to others, but Elsa can't - it's impossible. Her parents' make the decision to close the castle to the public, and lock Elsa in her room, so that her power won’t be discovered. Not even her sister is allowed to see and play with Elsa"

    Oh no, she got older, and hormones are now raging for her heterosexual feelings. By locking the poor girl in the castle, she won't run the risk of being exposed to pornography, sexuality, passion, and love from someone outside the family circle. Her hormones may cause her to influence her younger sister to become a hussy. Her parents urged her to control her hormones and emotions, but, being a teenager, she couldn't.

    I could keep going for every comment you made, but I won't. People find messages in books and movies based on what is in their head and their heart. Though you say "Let me be very clear about one thing, I am not anti-gay nor am I here to judge homosexuals not worthy of their rightful and respectful place among society..." the thoughts of your heart say otherwise. I encourage you to enjoy the movie for what it is. A plot line. A rather boring plot line at that and very similar to just about every fairytale. A princess gets locked in a castle/home/tower/whatever and has to be rescued (Rapunzel, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Beauty and the Beast, etc). I bet the target audience (young children) for the movie never once thought that there was a hidden message behind it.

    I fear you will live a sad and bitter life if you keep looking for everything that is wrong with the world. Start focusing on things that are right and enjoy them, for life is short.


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  46. I think you seriously over-thought the plot line. There was no hidden message or agenda. I could do the same thing with just about every movie that exists. Pick one, you can even choose a pro LDS movie produced with good intent and for the well being of the church. I can find hidden, evil messages inside of it.

    "Elsa has a great power that she has been taught by her parents, from the time she was a child, is not publicly acceptable and that she must fear its expression, at all cost, thus hide it from people, even her own sister who could be hurt by it - even killed. Shame is at the core of Elsa's feelings about her magical powers: same-sex attraction."

    How many parents teach their children that sex is evil, that it must never be expressed, at all cost, and that sexuality must be hidden from people? Tons. Many of the children being raised in the Mormon community have forgotten how to be sexual, even when they are married.

    "As Elsa’s power increases, her parents’ urge her to learn how to control it, as it would be perceived as evil to others, but Elsa can't - it's impossible. Her parents' make the decision to close the castle to the public, and lock Elsa in her room, so that her power won’t be discovered. Not even her sister is allowed to see and play with Elsa"

    Oh no, she got older, and hormones are now raging for her heterosexual feelings. By locking the poor girl in the castle, she won't run the risk of being exposed to pornography, sexuality, passion, and love from someone outside the family circle. Her hormones may cause her to influence her younger sister to become a hussy. Her parents urged her to control her hormones and emotions, but, being a teenager, she couldn't.

    I could keep going for every comment you made, but I won't. People find messages in books and movies based on what is in their head and their heart. Though you say "Let me be very clear about one thing, I am not anti-gay nor am I here to judge homosexuals not worthy of their rightful and respectful place among society..." the thoughts of your heart say otherwise. I encourage you to enjoy the movie for what it is. A plot line. A rather boring plot line at that and very similar to just about every fairytale. A princess gets locked in a castle/home/tower/whatever and has to be rescued (Rapunzel, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Beauty and the Beast, etc). I bet the target audience (young children) for the movie never once thought that there was a hidden message behind it.

    I fear you will live a sad and bitter life if you keep looking for everything that is wrong with the world. Start focusing on things that are right and enjoy them, for life is short.


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  47. I feel like in order to promote your belief systems onto other unsuspecting and easily persuaded parents you fish for anything that could be considered "promotion" of gay rights as exactly that and turn them against something beautiful and something that was created with hard work. While you can believe how ever you want, there are many strawman arguments here. Marriage has nothing to with legalization of it- that what gets me angry. MARRIAGE is a vow between two people who are committed in a PARTNERSHIP. Businesses are married together, the same as people. Just ENJOY the movie instead of finding reasons to hate it. And who says that the blonde man wasn't his brother and his wife, and the children were his nephews and nieces? HIS FAMILY, not his HUSBAND and random lady who is old enough to be out of the house, but is awkwardly in the sauna in only a towel...

    By the way- if God created all, why would he create you in a way that makes other people look down on you and not allow you the rights of other human beings? Society did the same thing to African Americans, and look how ridiculous it looks now, now that we see how wrong it is to judge them based on their skin color, or their orientation of who they find attractive. LOVE ONE ANOTHER.


    - An LDS member who is SEVERELY offended by those who want to promote hatred and bigotry on behalf of a loving god who is supposed to forgive and love all of his children- Including homosexuals, heterosexuals and everything in between.

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  48. I feel like in order to promote your belief systems onto other unsuspecting and easily persuaded parents you fish for anything that could be considered "promotion" of gay rights as exactly that and turn them against something beautiful and something that was created with hard work. While you can believe how ever you want, there are many strawman arguments here. Marriage has nothing to with legalization of it- that what gets me angry. MARRIAGE is a vow between two people who are committed in a PARTNERSHIP. Businesses are married together, the same as people. Just ENJOY the movie instead of finding reasons to hate it. And who says that the blonde man wasn't his brother and his wife, and the children were his nephews and nieces? HIS FAMILY, not his HUSBAND and random lady who is old enough to be out of the house, but is awkwardly in the sauna in only a towel...

    By the way- if God created all, why would he create you in a way that makes other people look down on you and not allow you the rights of other human beings? Society did the same thing to African Americans, and look how ridiculous it looks now, now that we see how wrong it is to judge them based on their skin color, or their orientation of who they find attractive. LOVE ONE ANOTHER.


    - An LDS member who is SEVERELY offended by those who want to promote hatred and bigotry on behalf of a loving god who is supposed to forgive and love all of his children- Including homosexuals, heterosexuals and everything in between.

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  49. Also you have to approve comments before they are posted? Because you know that people will have arguments that may convince others to not believe as you do, even if they are right and are promoting more morally acceptable things that this. You should be ashamed.

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  50. Yeah. How dare we as parents try and raise tolerant children who will Love One Another like we were told to. We need to teach our children that there is ONLY one way to do things and everyone else is wrong and we need to fight to keep America safe and straight for as long as possible.

    It sickens me that the government is making it easier and easier for the gays to marry and work and have homes and everything else. We should be allowed to discriminate against a minority group of people, especially if it goes against everything I believe and stand for! I don't want my children corrupted by their life style choices!

    I remember when our church was a white church and look how the blacks have taken over THAT now! My parents taught me NEVER to mix races as it was an abomination. Now there are a few interracial families in our ward and it makes me sick, sick, sick!

    So as this trend continues pretty soon we'll be seeing gay families in our wards, and it just can NOT happen!

    Disney, Nickelodeon, Secular schools, and more all keep pushing for tolerance, diversity, acceptance, and kindness and it is just plain WRONG! I do not want to teach my children that people are different and that it's "okay". So I continue to teach my children it is wrong, wrong, wrong, and "Love Thy Neighbor as They Self" only applies to those who are like us. White, straight, Mormons. Everyone else are sinners!

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  51. This is the most bugnutty thing I have read in a loooong time. I loved it. Is this mormon satire?

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  52. I'll take the "gay agenda" over your Mormon Agenda any day. I've lived in both. And I never felt so hated as I did on my mission and in self-righteous wards after.

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  53. Yeah. How dare we as parents try and raise tolerant children who will Love One Another like we were told to. We need to teach our children that there is ONLY one way to do things and everyone else is wrong and we need to fight to keep America safe and straight for as long as possible.

    It sickens me that the government is making it easier and easier for the gays to marry and work and have homes and everything else. We should be allowed to discriminate against a minority group of people, especially if it goes against everything I believe and stand for! I don't want my children corrupted by their life style choices!

    I remember when our church was a white church and look how the blacks have taken over THAT now! My parents taught me NEVER to mix races as it was an abomination. Now there are a few interracial families in our ward and it makes me sick, sick, sick!

    So as this trend continues pretty soon we'll be seeing gay families in our wards, and it just can NOT happen!

    Disney, Nickelodeon, Secular schools, and more all keep pushing for tolerance, diversity, acceptance, and kindness and it is just plain WRONG! I do not want to teach my children that people are different and that it's "okay". So I continue to teach my children it is wrong, wrong, wrong, and "Love Thy Neighbor as They Self" only applies to those who are like us. White, straight, Mormons. Everyone else are sinners!

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  54. I am a card carrying LDS mother, Kathryn, and you do not speak for me or for anyone I know. You are way off base on this one. Maybe you should remember the "Love one another" commandment. Sad.

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  55. You are a hateful bitch. it makes me sick that you, and people like you are dead set on spreading your hate to the next generations of children.

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  56. I really hope this is sarcastic.

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  57. You are being discussed over on the New Order Mormon forum (this blog post). It's a great forum and you'd probably enjoy reading and responding over there. This was an interesting blog entry and it's caused me to stop and think more about this movie

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  58. Most messages can be taken multiple ways.Just don't forget that the gospel is all about love. We need to not let our gay loved ones feel ashamed and hide who they are and sometimes ultimately committing suicide. As they are "allowed" to "let it go", they can reach a place of acceptance with themselves, which can include being faithful to the gospel. of Jesus Christ. Its time for the world to not be so ignorant on the subject, we need to love and accept and be the disciples of Christ that we are supposed to be. Now if the movie had cartoons having sex straight or gay and was a huge Disney hit, then I would be concerned, but it didn't.

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  59. You are being discussed over on the New Order Mormon forum (this blog post). It's a great forum and you'd probably enjoy reading and responding over there. This was an interesting blog entry and it's caused me to stop and think more about this movie

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  60. Most messages can be taken multiple ways.Just don't forget that the gospel is all about love. We need to not let our gay loved ones feel ashamed and hide who they are and sometimes ultimately committing suicide. As they are "allowed" to "let it go", they can reach a place of acceptance with themselves, which can include being faithful to the gospel. of Jesus Christ. Its time for the world to not be so ignorant on the subject, we need to love and accept and be the disciples of Christ that we are supposed to be. Now if the movie had cartoons having sex straight or gay and was a huge Disney hit, then I would be concerned, but it didn't.

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  61. Some of these things crossed my mind when I saw the movie, but I'm pretty sure that's just because everything in the media these days seems so gay-saturated it's almost impossible not to think EVEYRTHING is propaganda. I'm going to call uh-uh on this one. There are a lot of positive messages in this movie, and a lot of negative messages in almost everything, so I'm just going to focus on the positive.

    P.S. One of the characters in that sauna photo is obviously a woman (you can see the towel over her torso. It looks like a man, a woman and a handful of children to me.

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  62. http://forum.newordermormon.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35057&sid=6001fb203e5e710d783b576676c7a3a6

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  63. Silly Gays! They Don't Deserve To Be Around The Perfect White And Delightsome NoN-judgemental People Such As Yourself! Send Them To Their Own Island.... That's Where I'd Be Hanging Out Away From This Ridiculous Bigotry!

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  64. Silly Gays! They Don't Deserve To Be Around The Perfect White And Delightsome NoN-judgemental People Such As Yourself! Send Them To Their Own Island.... That's Where I'd Be Hanging Out Away From This Ridiculous Bigotry!

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  65. Message All Disney messages can be taken many ways. Isn't the Gospel all about love and not judging? We need to think of our gay loved ones who feel ashamed of the feelings they have and who they are, and sometimes, ultimately end up committing suicide because of that. They need to be "allowed" to feel like they can " let it go" and embrace a part of who they are and still be involved in a gospel that they love. And we as disciples of Jesus Christ need to be able to help them do that. If disney had straight and gay characters having sex on screen and it became a big hit, then I would be concerned. But this is about accepting who you are and whatever you're challenges may be, gay or straight. Young children need to learn this so that they can grow up to be loving examples and how Christ would want them to be. We can't let the gay stigma get in the way of good messages and christ like love. You as a Well behaved mormon woman who's just "trying to do more good" should know that best. We embrace all of our brothers and sisters. We are to be leaders in acceptance, and examples. People will see this post and not feel the Christ love, but will be fueled by hate and be pushed farther away from the Gospel. I doubt that was the intention of the Disney movie, so why should we make it such.

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  66. What you perceive things to be, is your reality.....no matter how quirky it is. Seriously, do you not have anything else you could do with your time than over analyzing something that has no merit?

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  67. Honestly, this post does way more harm than good. You choose to see some undercurrent about gay marriage, but the subtext is about prejudice and misunderstanding, in general. It seems that in your world, gays should have no freedom to express much of anything; that all should be quelled and suppressed.

    Whether one is for or against gay marriage is irrelevant in this argument. We are to love our brothers and sisters. We are commanded to be open and not judge or condemn. That doesn't mean we can't speak with our vote, but our brothers and sisters - especially those struggling with same-gender attraction - need our love and respect, not condemnation.

    thisweekinmormons.com

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  68. THIS is why people think christians and mormons are retarded. WOW. seriously? SERIOUSLY? wow.

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  69. and THIS is why people think mormons and "christians" (i use quotes because it's not at ALL christlike) are retarded. thanks for being negative, sad and delusional.

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  70. This is ridiculous. Only someone obsessing about homosexuality would even think of interpreting the movie in this way.

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  71. I love the movie even more now! What a positive message of love and acceptance, especially the acceptance of oneself.

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  72. I love the movie even more now! What a positive message of love and acceptance, especially the acceptance of oneself.

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  73. As you are a homophobe not realizing this story is based on an old Hans Christian Anderssen fairy tale all I can ever say to people like you is. I am so sorry you are seeing the imaginary devil everywhere. Get off you high horse and get the message, it is PRETEND!! A fairy tale! A good one at that! Telling the story of a true FEMALE hero!. Shame on you!

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  74. Seriously?? Maybe the movie is just about what it's about! I don't see what is the matter with anything pro-gay marriage, but honestly. It. Is. Just. A. Movie. Based on a fairy tale that has nothing to do with this subject. So stop trying to ruin the movie for everybody who loved it and just LET IT GO

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  75. This is ridiculous..Your twisting a absolutely beautiful movie to fit your agenda. Worst post EVER. Best advice ever from a movie, NOT you. (And I am a fully active Mormon, by the way..) .not looking for secret messages in movies or music like the critic playing music backwards to hear Paul is dead...

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  76. Wow, It's people like you within the Mormon community that give us all a bad name. I don't have any words for this garbage other than that.

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  77. Well I thought it was a fantastic portrayal of the bond between sisters and feminine strength and I couldn't have been happier with it. This is coming from a fellow Mormon mother who agrees we should fight liberal agendas within our nation.

    BTW that is clearly a husband, wife and their kids in the sauna. I wouldn't be surprised if Disney starts incorporating homosexuality at some point, but not here.

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  78. Well I thought it was a fantastic portrayal of the bond between sisters and feminine strength and I couldn't have been happier with it. This is coming from a fellow Mormon mother who agrees we should fight liberal agendas within our nation.

    BTW that is clearly a husband, wife and their kids in the sauna. I wouldn't be surprised if Disney starts incorporating homosexuality at some point, but not here.

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  79. Interesting... My last comment never appeared. I wonder why...

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  80. Okay... i've been thinking some more about this... so are you saying that they are trying to make us accept gays? or that if you have gay feelings to act on them? either way... movies have very little weight when making a decision about how to live a person's life. plus.. think about this... what about the message from those people who DON'T get the gay propaganda out of this... like me.. i have anxiety.. when i hear let it go, it gives me inspiration to quit trying to control things in my life that i have no control over... life is about being positive and seeking the good. not dwelling on the bad. right?

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  81. I suggest the following video is on point:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1srY4fW-6s

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  82. So then what are you feelings on Mulan? Or Snow White: where the prince wears lipstick? The Little Mermaid where Usula's main image was borrowed from that of a famous drag queen?Gay agenda. Jungle Book: Little boy sings with a bear? Gay agenda. Sword in the Stone: has to be an innuendo for something. Beauty and the Beast: Love someone for who they are? Gay agenda. Sleeping Beauty: Evil Maleficent keeps Aurora locked in a tower and won't let any prince come near: Gay agenda.

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  83. You missed the point of the movie, and you're really paranoid.

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  84. Oh good Lord woman! This post is the most self-righteous, narcissistic post I've ever read. It is people like you that make it nearly impossible to raise loving girls. Good luck in your Utopia bubble of everyone living their lives to fulfill your "christian agenda." It's unfortunate that you missed an entirely uplifting and genuine movie about the love of sisters and their eternal strength for each other! I hope no one reads this post just to avoid the dirty nature and ruining the innocent message of this movie. You're a mess! Please, for our future generations, please take a moment to digest the filth and discrimination you've produced here.

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  85. Oh good Lord woman! This post is the most self-righteous, narcissistic post I've ever read. It is people like you that make it nearly impossible to raise loving girls. Good luck in your Utopia bubble of everyone living their lives to fulfill your "christian agenda." It's unfortunate that you missed an entirely uplifting and genuine movie about the love of sisters and their eternal strength for each other! I hope no one reads this post just to avoid the dirty nature and ruining the innocent message of this movie. You're a mess! Please, for our future generations, please take a moment to digest the filth and discrimination you've produced here.

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  86. I know. How dare "the gays" want to be treated equally and with respect. Those evil sinners.....

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  87. Nice!! You get to approve all your posts!! Nice way to censor all the comments!! I guess everyone that does comment will lovingly agree with you. Enjoy your small little life and your small little mind.

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  88. It's interesting to me that you so perfectly described how another human being feels, and then disregard it in the next sentence. Where is Christ in your post? You focus on obedience to a fault, but where is Christ?

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  89. Please go and live in Southeastern Idaho, and never ever ever leave. Lock up your own castle. Your poor children.

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  90. don't look at the back of a dollar bill, you might see some hidden messages there.

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  91. This is why you shouldn't smoke crack and blog. Those people saying you're crazy? Listen closely to those people.

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  92. This is why you shouldn't smoke crack and blog. Those people saying you're crazy? Listen closely to those people.

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  93. Do you have any idea how absolutely ridiculous this post makes you, and your church, look?!

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  94. I think you are looking for symbolism that isn't there.

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  95. I think someone is attracted to women and it scares her to death.

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  96. I actually am sad for you. To live your life which such judgment and criticism must be exhausting. This "hidden message" apparently was deeply deeply hidden. So much so that only a few conspiracy theorists, such as yourself, even saw it. Children certainly were not "brainwashed". I was raised Mormon and out of respect for my family and friends who are practicing Mormons, I will not give my views publicly. Let me just say that many people leave your church because of holier-than-though, judgmental, and critical opinions just like you have displayed here. I know you won't publish this response, and that's okay. Just remember that Jesus said "love everyone". Not everyone who believes exactly like you.

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  97. This is why you don't smoke crack and blog. Those people telling you that you're crazy? You should really listen to those folks.

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  98. You are so far off the mark on this that I cant even see straight

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  99. You are so far off the mark on this. I'm sickened by what you wrote and published. Ugh!

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  100. Is this for real? Like, are you serious about this or is it just a joke to get popular? Youre ridiclous. You will burn in hell for being so judgemental while I sit up in heaven drinking cosmopolitans with all the people who actually treated people right throughout their lives.

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  101. Do you have any idea how ridiculous this post makes you, and your church, look?

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  102. I can see how some people might apply the storyline to homosexuality. But the truth is, there's no homosexuals in it. It's just about a young woman who was shut away because her magical powers proved to be dangerous as a young child.
    Homosexuality is an entirely different issue.

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  103. Interesting post. I felt some discomfort about the "Let It Go" message and the selfish-isolationist portrayal of the main character. However, I personally feel the suppositions you make are more a reflection of your own view of the world than any malevolent media/force. We all see through a glass darkly. That's the nature of mortality. Works of art (such as this film, story, musical) allow us to find ourselves, our world and our beliefs in the artists' rendition. We super-impose our own perspectives on what is often intended to be a maleable creation. That is the beauty of art. We each get to apply our own interpretation to artistic works.

    I saw myself in the main character. Many years ago as a much younger woman (but without the Barbie body) and as a survivor of childhood trauma - isolated, at times lashing out at people who I really loved, filled with a sort of unique awareness of how evil presents itself in the world, which, again, felt isolating. And filled with the power of truth - of knowing and owning the truth. Light and truth of something other people might find horrific. Yet light and truth are powerful. This power can be either generative or destructive, depending on how it is used and how it is perceived by those around us. . . I could go on.

    My graphic-designer son who works with branding and other marketing concepts saw this moving as having been designed specifically with the idea of marketing action figures and "Frozen" Barbie dolls. "They probably made the toys first, then animated the film based on those designs."


    Do you see what I'm getting at?

    You seem to be sensitive to the turbulence surrounding same sex marriage. You found your own turbulence expressed in the film. I personally believe that the composers, writers and producers bring their own worldview to their creation. Are they actively, covertly, purposely trying to inculcate the youth with gay-friendly attitudes? I'm not sure I believe that. Nor am I sure that if they did have this in mind it would wreak the sort of destruction you envision. I respect your attempt to communicate something that is important to you. I don't think this makes you crazy, but I do think it's crazy to assume that because you see something in the film that causes you concern, everyone else should also be concerned. I think you make a few good points, but taken as a whole, I find this post alarmist and, frankly a bit un-Christ-like.

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  104. You, dear sweet old lady.. are delusional- get a life

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  105. I had concerns about the song "Let It Go". I knew it was an anti-obedience message. The rest of the movie left me slightly uneasy, but I couldn't really put my finger on it until now.

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  106. Very well done, Kathryn. I have not seen the movie except for clips such as these. I have been concerned about double messages in "children's" shows for quite some time. It is sad to know that Disney with all of its ability to entertain bring joy to children, is also becoming more of a tool for those who have a very unwholesome agenda. I think your observations are spot on and while there may be those who think you are reading too much into it, there are also those who will see the same messages and praise them as "progress." I appreciate your willingness to address these concerns.

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  107. When I walked out of seeing Frozen, I was concerned about the song "Let It Go". I felt it was anti-obedience and had a counter culture message. I had an uneasy feeling about the rest of the movie. I couldn't really put my finger on it until now. So subtle.

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  108. You can just as easily apply the story to a young woman who is forced to live by her family's anti-Mormon values when she so desperately wants to be baptized. When she is an adult she is then free to live by her own rules. She then joins the church and worships Christ against her family's wishes and values.

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  110. Kathryn, do you actually know any gay people? This is an honest question. Like are any of your friends or family members (as far as you know) gay?

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  111. So...you would prefer a movie in which the plot teaches children to hate other human beings because of the way they were born? Perhaps you would prefer Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame and the song "Hellfire" in which the religious figure damns the gypsy dancer because he had "feelings" for her? Or maybe you would have liked Pocahontas better if it had realistically portrayed the slaughter of the Native Americans because they had darker skin, weren't Christians, and happened to be living in the land the Europeans wanted?

    Never mind the fact that Frozen is a movie about siblings and familial love... clearly there's a homosexual agenda being pushed. If you look hard enough. Because you want to see it there.

    Clearly, we need to add more persecution to children's movies. Right? The next Disney movie can persecute gay people. Maybe the next one can persecute...Mormons? Oh, did I lose you there?

    I'm a Christian, and I believe what I learned in Sunday School about how "God is love." Witch hunts are so 17th century.

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  112. My response to her blog.. geez this homophobic crap is ridiculous...

    Kathryn you label yourself the well behaved Mormon and I understand you desire to protect your children from the influences of evil and harm, both according to your conscience and to your beliefs. But sadly your post is full of hate speak and fear about what your children and those of your friends may learn. That you believe that every human, straight or gay or some variation on this theme are unloveable as humans and do not deserve the same rights as humans as you yourself do is a terrible shame. If I were to take the list of mistakes and sin i create as a human being just living the experience if being human it would be blatantly clear to myself, that i have no right to cast a stone against the LGBT community nor against my fellow Christian or Buddhist or Muslim or what ever else anyone chose to believe, or live. There are far more pressing issues to spend this kind of energy on. Our love toward our fellowman no matter their sexual orientation as members of the Mormon church can only serve to increase the opportunity to share the messages Christ would have us bring. Hate and fear do not afford us those opportunities and damage and in many cases take the lives vicariously through the suffering and suicide of the young people in our Mormon community , let alone the world at large. Again, i can think of so many other places to place this worthy crusade against evil. Consider what your energy could to do help those who are trapped in situations of Human Trafficking, and domestic violence, or why not volunteer time in a soup kitchen in your community and helping the homeless have the things they need most or get a group together to make baby quilts for the hospitals abandoned and drug babies? Energy spent in these kinds of endeavors spreads love, compassion and tenderness into humanity. Fearful, Hateful things like this create energy spent in the name of Christ proselyting hate and fear and are diametrically opposed to the most basic principles that he taught us and that is simply to love one another. Are we not taught that we are taught to love our neighbor as ourselves, and most importantly that if we have done it unto the least of these we have done it unto the Savoir? Would you really treat yourself, your Savior or your Father in Heaven this way? I think not.

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  113. My response to her blog.. geez this homophobic crap is ridiculous...

    Kathryn you label yourself the well behaved Mormon and I understand you desire to protect your children from the influences of evil and harm, both according to your conscience and to your beliefs. But sadly your post is full of hate speak and fear about what your children and those of your friends may learn. That you believe that every human, straight or gay or some variation on this theme are unloveable as humans and do not deserve the same rights as humans as you yourself do is a terrible shame. If I were to take the list of mistakes and sin i create as a human being just living the experience if being human it would be blatantly clear to myself, that i have no right to cast a stone against the LGBT community nor against my fellow Christian or Buddhist or Muslim or what ever else anyone chose to believe, or live. There are far more pressing issues to spend this kind of energy on. Our love toward our fellowman no matter their sexual orientation as members of the Mormon church can only serve to increase the opportunity to share the messages Christ would have us bring. Hate and fear do not afford us those opportunities and damage and in many cases take the lives vicariously through the suffering and suicide of the young people in our Mormon community , let alone the world at large. Again, i can think of so many other places to place this worthy crusade against evil. Consider what your energy could to do help those who are trapped in situations of Human Trafficking, and domestic violence, or why not volunteer time in a soup kitchen in your community and helping the homeless have the things they need most or get a group together to make baby quilts for the hospitals abandoned and drug babies? Energy spent in these kinds of endeavors spreads love, compassion and tenderness into humanity. Fearful, Hateful things like this create energy spent in the name of Christ proselyting hate and fear and are diametrically opposed to the most basic principles that he taught us and that is simply to love one another. Are we not taught that we are taught to love our neighbor as ourselves, and most importantly that if we have done it unto the least of these we have done it unto the Savoir? Would you really treat yourself, your Savior or your Father in Heaven this way? I think not.

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  114. Kathryn do you actually know any gay people? Like do you have any friends or family members (as far as you know) who are gay?

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  115. It is obvious that we can interpret anything to support the viewpoints we want to see. When I saw the movie...I saw that "shame" of Elsa from my own point of view of my desires to break free from the LDS Church cult culture...and how the reactions of everyone I knew...all being LDS ...would shun me because of it...and her song moved me to desire to be true to what I knew to be true in my heart and to not be afraid of the judgemental attitudes of others. I am the one tha has to live with my own choices...and you yours...and everyone has to live with themselves. The movies showed her learning to be OK with who she is on the inside and how those that really love her are ok because they loved HER as an person...not as a pretty picture of perfection or what her "title" held. Hans is the real ugly character in this...because he had a picture of what he wanted for himself - glory - and didn't care what happened to others...it was all about him being "right" and hating on others - oh, that sounds like the mormon culture if ever I likened it to anything. Quit ragging on hating others...and follow Christ...not the "Bretheren".

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  116. Kathryn do you actually know any gay people? Like do you have any friends of family members (as far as you know) that are gay?

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  117. You're a psyho woman full of hatred. First of all, you read into something that never existed in the first place just to advocate your backwards way of thinking. You are so psychotic I just don't even know where to begin.
    Second, get out of everyone's faces with your Christian beliefs about marriage. Marriage is not a Christian institution. Marriage has been practiced around the world for thousands of years BEFORE Christianity even existed, and is practiced in every religion. No one cares if Christianity thinks two people of the same sex shouldn't get married; it's not a Christian thing to decide, nor is America a Christian nation.
    Oh, and by the way, guess what happens when a same-sex couple raises a child? Oh, that's right, they turn out completely normal and well-adjusted in every way. You did get one thing right in your article-hate isn't genetic, it's taught. If you want your kids to be as backwards-minded as you, you do have to make sure they keep their eyes and ears shut every time they step outside. Guess what else has been proven? Uninfluenced kids are perfectly fine with homosexuality.
    In summary, you're wrong, and prepare to be proven even more wrong in the next 50 years or so when gay marriage becomes completely legalized and people can marry as they please.

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  118. I am an active LDS woman, served a mission, born and raised LDS, faithful tithe payer, temple worthy, and you terrify me. Shame on you. You are intolerant. You are hateful. You are not Christian in any significant sense of the word. And on the eighth day, God made the movie "Frozen" and saw that it was good.

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  119. You have got to be kidding. This is a beautiful story about two sisters and their love for each other conquering fear. There is no hidden gay agenda. You are projecting your own fears and infallacies into one of the best moral stories Disney has produced. I was too sickened by all the hate to even read all of this nonsense. If you truly claim to be a representative of the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints you wouldn't be so quick to assume the worst of a Disney movie. Though there are absolutely no gay undertones or story lines in this movie, Heavenly Father loves all His children including the LGBT community and however misconstrued your view of Frozen was, you have no right to judge others and force your preposterous allegations of Frozens "rebellious nature". If you didn't like it, fine, don't take your children or grandchildren to see it.

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  120. Interesting. As I watched the movie, all I could think of was how my sister's love saved my life from an abusive relationship 20 years ago, and the song "Let it Go" was a powerful message of the Atonement. I had spent so much time afraid of coming back to the faith because "that perfect girl [was] gone," and only when I "let go" of my burdens and gave them to the Lord was I able to truly access spiritual power I hadn't before, and not care what other judgmental members of the church would say to me upon my return.

    But maybe I was deliberately looking for that message in the first place.

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  121. I think you are reading into that movie way too much. It's an interesting way to look at it but i don't think that was the point of the movie.... at all.... i agree with drew. not everything is propoganda.

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  122. I couldn't disagree more. As a straight LDS Mormon I believe Frozen's message is more Christian than any movie I've ever seen from Disney.

    Anna's sacrifice at the end of the movie parallels that of Christ's sacrifice for all of us. She is willing to die for her sister. An act of true love, to her sister who indeed "let it go" (which I absolutely do no not believe stands for disobedience) As mortals have we not all "let it go"? Have we not all sinned? Have we not all fallen short?

    Elsa represents all of us. None of us can overcome our emotional pain and sins on our own. When Elsa's parents taught her to conceal and control her powers, they were teaching her that she could do it "on her own". If you stuff your feelings, imperfections and short comings deep enough they will disappear. You can handle it... To believe this is to say "I do not need Christ". To truly be healed by Christ, no matter the affliction, Gay or straight, all of us need to let it go. It reminds me of my favorite phrase "Let Go and Let God."

    Let me assure you, I mean no contention by my comments. But after reading your article I simply cannot let my thoughts go unsaid.

    Though I do see your points and interpretations, I feel they are seriously flawed.

    I hope all parents everywhere embrace the message of Frozen; love, family, acceptance, sacrifice, understanding, compassion and learning to "let it go". Something that will bring us closer to the Lord.

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  123. I couldn't disagree more. As a straight LDS Mormon I believe Frozen's message is more Christian than any movie I've ever seen from Disney.

    Anna's sacrifice at the end of the movie parallels that of Christ's sacrifice for all of us. She is willing to die for her sister. An act of true love, to her sister who indeed "let it go" (which I absolutely do no not believe stands for disobedience) As mortals have we not all "let it go"? Have we not all sinned? Have we not all fallen short?

    Elsa represents all of us. None of us can overcome our emotional pain and sins on our own. When Elsa's parents taught her to conceal and control her powers, they were teaching her that she could do it "on her own". If you stuff your feelings, imperfections and short comings deep enough they will disappear. You can handle it... To believe this is to say "I do not need Christ". To truly be healed by Christ, no matter the affliction, Gay or straight, all of us need to let it go. It reminds me of my favorite phrase "Let Go and Let God."

    Let me assure you, I mean no contention by my comments. But after reading your article I simply cannot let my thoughts go unsaid.

    Though I do see your points and interpretations, I feel they are seriously flawed.

    I hope all parents everywhere embrace the message of Frozen; love, family, acceptance, sacrifice, understanding, compassion and learning to "let it go". Something that will bring us closer to the Lord.

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  124. I didn't catch on at all! I still don't think of it as a bad movie and I am sure that kids under the age of 12 won't catch on either. Unless a parent puts it into their heads. Every disney movie has stuff in it that is bad. Alice and wonderland they are high on drugs, some have swear words, most everyone has the parents die or are in a divorce. lots of the princesses are immodest. I do not agree with gay marriage but it is not up to me to judge what other people do or how they feel. It is a part of our lives now a days. We can not shelter our kids for ever. My kids Love the music and so do I!!! We will not stop listening to it. My interpretation of the song Let it go. Is depression and now she is free!!!

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  125. Y'know, I wasn't all that blown away by the movie and am having some trouble understanding why it's so beloved. Now I'm thinking it's possible many an audience is finding too much to love in the movie themes. I don't know yet if I agree with everything you said (though I do agree with the song lyrics!) but this is a lot of think about. Well presented!

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  126. This is the most absurd, ridiculous thing I have heard and I work with drug addicts. This is such a stretch that this is the message. Instead of you spending so much time writing prejudice hateful horsepucky go to some charity or something like Christ suggested.

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  127. Ok so you saw this movie three times? You didn't feel right about it the first time? went a second time still the same feelings? And then you proceed to watch it a third time? I think you should take the beam out from your sight before you point out motes! (by the way if you don't know what I am talking about you may want to study the Gospel of Jesus Christ a little more. Or else you may be in the category of the five virgins that just ran out of oil.)

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  128. This is the most absurd, ridiculous thing I have heard and I work with drug addicts. This is such a stretch that this is the message. Instead of you spending so much time writing prejudice hateful horsepucky go to some charity or something like Christ suggested.

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  129. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAJYk1jOhzk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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  130. Y'know, I wasn't all that blown away by the movie and am having some trouble understanding why it's so beloved. Now I'm thinking it's possible many an audience is finding too much to love in the movie themes. I don't know yet if I agree with everything you said (though I do agree with the song lyrics!) but this is a lot of think about. Well presented!

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  131. Gotta say, this was well presented and gave me a lot to think about. I wasn't all that blown away by the movie and have been having some trouble understanding why it is so beloved (it was good, but not great...) I don't know if I agree with all your conclusions, but the song lyrics bothered me upon viewing as well.

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  132. Part of me wants to point out the many, many instances of incomplete sentences, grammar mistakes, word misuse, etc. but then the other part of me, the part that doesn't want the world to think that all Mormons are as paranoid as you, wants me to just leave it alone and let the mistakes speak for themselves. Obviously, in the end, grammar won. In the words of Marie Barone, poor grammar "is the end of civilization!" (Ironic, isn't it, since your post argues that gay marriage is the end of civilization?)

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  133. Um, women back in the 1600's were hung or burned alive for being thought of as different, witches ect. Mormons were persecuted and killed because they were thought of as different and a danger to society. I believe the Frozen story is more of a general story of being or feeling different than it is about being specifically gay. But who knows. You'd need to actually ask who wrote it to know what they had in mind. I think you're reading too much into it.

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  134. Someone has way too much time on their hands.

    It's funny that Elsa never once expresses romantic interest in a woman. And her power involves manipulating snow and ice. It has nothing to do with attracting or being attracted to women. You must be obsessed with homosexuality if that was your takeaway.

    I won't speculate on why you're so obsessed.

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  135. seriously? grow up. this is just a desperate attempt to garner attention and take away from the innocence of such a lovely children's movie. This is embarrassing.

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  136. i am so embarrassed for you. This is a sad attempt to garner attention and take away from a children's movie. Just stop

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  137. And people wonder why non-members think we Mormons are weird. Because some people with too much time on their hands write massive tomes about a perfectly fine movie and try to read a "gay agenda" into it. Sounds like someone needs a BIG GAY HUG!

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  138. I wish people would find things to better the world and invest your time in that instead of your hatred for things you dont understand. Ignorance is bliss. Get a life

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  139. Oh my goodness, you're ridiculous. Did you watch it? I know you SAID that you did, but it seems as if you're only watching through the lens of someone who believes the evil gays have this agenda to ruin your religion, which they don't, see. Just ask one. They don't care about your religion just like you don't care about their legal rights. They're not asking your church for a god-approved marriage, they're asking for the same LEGAL rights. Anyway, the girl was born with a skill of controlling ice (see, it's a fictional made-up, god-given talent and not a fictional made-up god-given lifestyle preference). She decided, at a young age, to try to control this power by not feeling, and that made her sad and miserable, so after the incident she decided to embrace it and though it was difficult, there was hardship and stress she eventually learned to control it much better, by embracing her inner self and instead of pretending to be something she's not. Sure, this could be applied to a "gay story" but it could also be applied to "artsy personality" or "naturally organized" or "snappy dresser" or "chocolate lover" or "bad but enthusiastic dancer" or "shower singer" or any other time any other person is trying to be something they're not. As a matter of fact, I know tons and tons of ex-mormon women who left because they were sick of trying to deny their uniqueness and be something they're not, which is the Stepford-wife stereotypical Mormon who always has perfect hair, make-up and clothes. It must be exhausting striving for such an unnatural and trivial ideal. No wonder you're offended by the idea of giving up on perfection. "Let it go" isn't evil, but grasping for straws to invent criticisms designed to rile people up for no reason against something as benign as a children's movie probably is. The reason no one talks about the "gay agenda" in this film is because it isn't there. Not only is there no such thing as a gay agenda, but the movie is about sisters. You're a nut. Now it's wrong for sisters to love one another? It must suck to be you.

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  140. Good Heavens. Your Bishop needs to give you more callings to keep you too busy to be tempted by such filth in the world. It's a freakin movie, nobody DRUGGED you and forced you to go see it.
    A Typical "Church Lady". I'd love to see you put as much energy in feeding the hungry and even examining your own church's hypocritical use of tax free money to influence politics as you did analyzing that cartoon. Unbelieveable.

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  141. 1. She's pretty much right about the messages of the movie, although it doesn't have to apply only to gay rights... It applies to anyone who doesn't fit the mold of what their families or society expects of them.

    That said, I think the message of the movie is great. In fact, while reading her point-to-point explanation of each of the movie's "gay" concepts I kept wondering why she had to think that these things she was bringing up were so negative. A lot of those paragraphs could have been read as a positive reason to support gay rights. I think if she knew any actual gay people... If she were forced to get to know them and understand why they are the way they are and whether they really are immoral or depraved, she would be forced to conclude that those messages from the movie really are good and important for society to hear.
    It's so easy to act like gay people aren't actually people, as if they aren't even real, when the gay people you imagine in your mind are as cartoonish as the bloodthirsty Lamanites in the living scriptures videos. Once you realize that they are real people trying to live good happy lives, instead of trying to push their liberal agenda on all the "normal" people, it's a whole different story.


    2. Can someone write one of these for The Lion King? All scar was doing was overthrowing a fascist dictator who refused to feed the hyenas, instead letting them starve. Something something.
    Do The Little Mermaid next. It's clearly liberal propaganda.: defy tradition, do thee things that 'feel' good. Follow the sinful land people, even if it puts the whole kingdom at risk.
    Pretty sure Tangled is all about a mom trying to keep her daughter a pure virgin, only for an evil greedy man to steal it away, even though doing so removes her sacred powers and almost kills her.
    I could do this all day. When your primary agenda is to reject change under the assumption that the old ways (tradition) are already perfect and ideal, everything is your enemy. Fighting progress, literally intentionally stunting growth.

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  142. I think my family saw a totally different version of "Frozen" than you did.
    But people see what they want to see.....

    I, for one, was happy to see a lead female Disney character get saved by the love and sacrifice of her sister instead of being rescued by the handsome prince. I was happy to hear common sense in Elsa's "you can't marry someone you just met". I was thrilled to see stronger female characters.

    Being hidden away isn't a new idea. Wasn't Sleeping Beauty hidden away with her fairy godmothers so that she wouldn't be found? Are you going to find issue with a young woman being guarded by three fairies, too?

    And please. The story is an adaptation from Hans Christian Andersen's "The Snow Queen", which they had to take liberties with, as parts of the viewing public would obviously take issue with Gerda saying the Lord's Prayer to stop the snowflakes protecting the palace so that she could enter.

    *sigh* Call it what you will. We aren't going to read anything into the story more than what is there. I think my kids are safe.

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  143. I've heard people take the approach that Elsa has a mental illness such as depression or anxiety. You can put any twist you want on it. Many people struggle with a lot of different things. Some socially accepted, some not. I feel Frozen encourages people to be themselves, to not give up on family, to be conscious of the motives of others, to set aside time for those we love, and many other lessons.. and I don't even LIKE the movie. So while I feel your opinion on the motive behind the movie is quite the stretch, at least you are pondering what YOU gained from it.

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  144. So...you would prefer a movie in which the plot teaches children to hate other human beings because of the way they were born? Perhaps you would prefer Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame and the song "Hellfire" in which the religious figure damns the gypsy dancer because he had "feelings" for her? Or maybe you would have liked Pocahontas better if it had realistically portrayed the slaughter of the Native Americans because they had darker skin, weren't Christians, and happened to be living in the land the Europeans wanted?

    Never mind the fact that Frozen is a movie about siblings and familial love... clearly there's a homosexual agenda being pushed. If you look hard enough. Because you want to see it there.

    Clearly, we need to add more persecution to children's movies. Right? The next Disney movie can persecute gay people. Maybe the next one can persecute...Mormons? Oh, did I lose you there?

    I'm a Christian, and I believe what I learned in Sunday School about how "God is love." Witch hunts are so 17th century.

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  145. Your blog title makes it clear that you value obedience and good behavior. Other people value authenticity, moral decision-making, kindness, free-thought, challenging the status quo, environmentalism, what-have-you. There are many ways to view what is important and good and being "well-behaved" at all times is not important to everyone.

    It seems obvious to me that the same sex marriage issue is a huge one for you. So be it. You clearly understand both sides of the argument and hold firmly to yours. I think that the strength of your feelings is causing you to see things that aren't there. While you can clearly take the story of the movie and apply it to homosexuality, you can also apply it to any number of other things. There are a lot of things that people fear about themselves and try to control and hide. Some may have strong opinions that are sometimes offensive to others and have a hard time holding those feelings in for fear that they won't be accepted and loved if they share their authentic thoughts. Some might hold different religious beliefs than the rest of their family and be afraid to tell them about it. Some may be from a family of physicians but really want to pursue a career in music. Who knows? You can apply the storyline to countless different scenarios. And I think THAT, along with some beautiful music, is what is so appealing about the movie. We all have sides of ourselves that we are afraid to show to others for fear of rejection. Over time suppressing a huge aspect of who we are becomes limiting, oppressive, almost strangling. We feel the urge to break out of our shells, to share who we really are. Sometimes that is done in such a way that it damages others. But in the movie, the sisters learn to work together, to harness the good in that hidden aspect of one sister and share it openly and positively. The movie shows that families can be helpful, loving and supportive and that when we are honest with others they may just help us find that positive way to be who we really are.

    You want to continue seeing only a "gay agenda" in the movie, fine. I'm sorry you're letting your fear ruin a perfectly lovely movie. I'm not a believer in strict obedience, doing-as-you-re-told, or always being well-behaved. Part of life is making mistakes, testing limits, asking questions, and discovering the beauty in who you are, not necessarily fitting into the mold of what your parents or religion or social group tell you that you ought to be. I do, however, believe in being a good person, showing love to others, and choosing right over wrong, so perhaps there is similarity in our values even though we observe them a little differently.

    And for the record, I don't know how you look at that family in the sauna and see the gay partner of the shop owner. That is clearly a man, a woman, and several children.

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  146. I am at a loss. Looked WAY too much into that movie. I mean a ridiculous amount into it.

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  147. If people want to see this as someone pushing a "gay agenda" go ahead, when I hear the lyrics of this song I hear a message of being strong and learning to accept who you are. If a group tells you it is not okay to love yourself and that you must conform, maybe they aren't the right group for you.

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  148. Boy.... That was a stretch. Sad, really. You can find conspiracy anywhere I you look hard enough. I knew this was going to happen when Mormons found out who was involved in the lyrics and who Olaf's voice was performed by.

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  149. Boy.... That was a stretch. Sad, really. You can find conspiracy anywhere I you look hard enough. I knew this was going to happen when Mormons found out who was involved in the lyrics and who Olaf's voice was performed by.

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  150. I am at a loss for words...
    You have looked WAY too much into this movie.
    Also using the term gay agenda makes you come off as homophobic.
    As a fellow Mormon I honestly wish you didnt post this. This comes off as scared and in no way loving to those who are homosexual.

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  151. You need to be censored from advocating your agenda of hate and negativity towards society.

    This post is ridiculous fear-god or be damned propaganda.

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  152. You need to be censored from advocating your agenda of hate and negativity towards society.

    This post is ridiculous fear-god or be damned propaganda.

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  153. I am at a loss for words...
    You have looked WAY too much into this movie.
    Also using the term gay agenda makes you come off as homophobic.
    As a fellow Mormon I honestly wish you didnt post this. This comes off as scared and in no way loving to those who are homosexual.

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  154. Your the one who needs to be censored for advocating your agenda, of hate and negativity towards society.

    This is just ridiculous fear god or be damned propaganda. So asinine.

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  155. To me the parallels I drew were about mental illness and how that affects a family. Elsa's unintentionally hurting her sister as a child and then spending adolescence in isolation. When she "let it go" it may have been a climactic moment that seemed nice, but the consequences were crazy winter that threatened lives and Elsa could not control it. Hardly glorification. I think you are wrong and little over sensitive.

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  156. If you think that Disney had some kind of "hidden agenda", you should probably realize that the metaphor for the princess' powers is really up to interpretation and it sounds like you've got gay on the brain. This post is so absurdly ridiculous and asinine.

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  157. When you let go of the fear in the raising of children, it suddenly becomes so much easier. It's not the "bad things" that cause problems. It's the fear of "bad things." Let it go!

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  158. THANK YOU For your important warning! Now, for your next post will you PLEASE warn the world about the EVILS of "Puff the Magic Dragon" and let everyone know not to let their impressionable children listen to it because it really promotes the "Drug Agenda."

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  159. Parallels between Elsa's problems and mental illness are stronger than this theory you suggest. Elsa's powers harm her sister in a real way and she spends her childhood and adolescence struggling with her condition. The "Let it go" moment may be climactic, but in the movie it is not glorified for long since it is soon clear that Elsa has no control over her powers and that people will die if summer doesn't come back. I think a mental health parallel is much stronger and shows how issues that affect one person end up affecting a whole family. Your alarm and energy is perhaps better spent elsewhere. As Christians, shouldn't be be more defined by what we stand FOR, as opposed to what we are AGAINST? Just a thought.

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  160. THANK YOU for your important warning! PLEASE tell me that for your next post you will warn your readers about the evils of "Puff the Magic Dragon" and how they should not let their impressionable children listen to it because its real purpose is to push the "drug agenda."

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  161. Um, women were burned at the stake because they were a little different and people thought they were witches. Mormons were persecuted and killed because of being perceived as different and dangerous. You need to ask the person that wrote the lyrics what exactly he had in mind. Otherwise I think you're reading way too much into this.

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  163. now that you mention it, the frozen queen and pocahontas would make a super cute couple.

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  164. Wow....This is beyond ridiculous. Let the record show that MOST Mormons would not agree with this paranoia.

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  165. Absurd. Ridiculous. Beyond a stretch! Use this time and energy doing charity work. "well behaved Mormon Woman" What does that even mean? Barefoot and pregnant ? You really fall into the stereotype people have about Mormons. Well done on reiterating that nonsense.

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  166. Edit, edit, edit. Please EDIT!!!

    When it takes 4 pages worth of rambling to get to your point then your point is CRAZY PARANOID?? Twelve pages worth of crazy paranoia about wanting to raise automatons that think EXACTLY like you? What happened to free agency?

    For the record, I just read your post aloud to my whole family around the dinner table. My daughter kept asking why does she think that? Her proof is silly. They are SISTERS. It's about family and love. This is INSANE!!

    And did I mention it's insane it took pages and pages to actually get to your so called evidence.

    Umm. Paranoid and guilty conscience on your part are the ONLY reasons I can see for your rant. This is so homophobic.. It's clear. Seeking hidden messages in a Disney princess movie?? Sigh...

    FYI, you just made a perfect argument FOR gay marriage. And now, I am going to watch Frozen again just to giggle when Elsa is made a "QUEEN." As someone mentioned on a FB page, aren't you worried about Sleeping Beauty being taken off by "Fairies???" GASP!

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  167. I'm not gonna read the whole thing but it's unusual that she cites the commandments because they don't say anything about the matter. I do acknowledge her point about the song being contrary to mormonism though because it's about female empowerment, which seems contrary to their culture. Letting go totally contradicts holding to the rod, but each their own.

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  168. Recently I sat down to watch FROZEN with four of my grandchildren. I knew they loved the movie, because they have memorized the words to the songs (though of tender age). Although I am bi-sexual, I never got the pro-gay message alluded to. Indeed, I rejoiced in the triumph of familial love between the sisters, Elsa and Anna. Unconditional love was the ultimate conclusion of their different status in life, and monarch and citizen. Shalom.

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  169. I would like to say something about this post.

    1. The "inclusive" nature of the LDS church only goes so far. African americans in the 1970's were able to reach new heights in the church. Why was this? Did God suddenly think, "Ok, we can have black people in our church be more than just members now. The time is right."? I find it easy to see how the church so easily persecutes people of this nature when not 40 years ago a whole section of americans were not able to reach the same standard. Plus when you take into account the amount of money the church spent on Prop 8 in California, it shows how much the idea of same-sex marriage really scares them. If all you have is biblical reasons to keep this from happening, then you really have no argument. Stop pushing your religion on others.

    2. Jesus Christ died for our sins so that we may live forever. He brought a new level of understanding with Him to our civilization. Your words prove you misunderstand His plight. He loved everyone, from the murderer to the prostitute. "Let he without sin cast the first stone." "All our welcome to my Father's table." These words mean more than JUST CHRISTIANS! It means all people, gay, straight, murderers, rapists, con-men/women. Everyone. We should allow love to spread freely. If people are committing a sin, that is between them and God, not you and them and God.

    3. To stop same-sex marriage on the basis of a religious doctrine is unconstitutional. Your opinions should not be law just because it is in the bible. What is someone who is athiest is gay and wants to be married by the state. What does it matter to you? Your church hasn't changed, no one is forcing your religion to change. You should be happy that people are finding love in this crazy mixed up world. It is more beautiful to see people happy and together, than sad and apart.

    Learn to love, and the world will love you. Keep on being the barrier between love, and you totally missed the point of Jesus' message. I feel sorry for you and hope you find His love soon. All are welcome at my Father's table, not just people who read the bible and follow antiquated laws based on life in ancient times. For the record I'm interested in selling my youngest daughter into slavery as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. Should this be allowed? If the bible says so I guess it is.

    Jesus is love.

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  170. I hurt inside for your gay daughter, Kathryn.

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  171. A. It took you WAY to long to get to your point or any examples, you rambled the same very vague point for too long.
    B. These are pretty far fetched IMO, you could replace gay agenda with any struggle a girl coming of age goes through.
    C. The whole world doesn't have Christian values so not sure why you think Disney should. It is fine that you have those values, but the whole world doesn't see things the same way as you might.

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  172. I hurt inside for your gay daughter, Kathryn.

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  173. I sincerely cannot believe that you have diluted yourself into this kind of thinking. It is people like you that make it harder and harder every day for me to identify myself as mormon. I am ashamed to share a shred of anything in common with you. I would rather my child watch Will and Grace re-runs before ever reading the nonsense that you have posted on here. I wish a million times over I had never stumbled upon this. So while you go on your crusade to "expose the truth" in these obviously damaging DISNEY films, please remember that you are driving away more people with your ignorance, bigotry, and paranoia. So good job! Every member a missionary.

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  174. I know, right? It's abhorrent that some people want to be treated with simple human respect, and dare I say it, love and Christian charity? Ugh, it's disgusting.

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  175. Wow, you're just all kinds of crazy. Everyone know that this is really a Nazi propaganda film! Think about, all the signs are there!

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  176. Wow, you're just all kinds of crazy. Everyone know that this is really a Nazi propaganda film! Think about, all the signs are there!

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  177. I'm glad that you, and your religion, support those wonderful traditional marriage values such as polygamy and polyandry. How you can justify and laud a 37 yr. old man, who manipulates a 14 yr. old girl (among others) into spiritually "marrying" him so he have sex with her, is beyond me.

    Honestly, you're a whack job and you need professional help. Set down the pitcher, back away from the Kool-Aid, and turn off Glenn Beck.

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  178. I appreciate your blog post, Kathryn and I am saddened by many of the responses you are getting. I think we need to be more discerning about the media that we allow to influence our lives and our homes. I've been surprised at how big the song "Let it Go" has gotten, and have wondered as well if anyone actually listened to the lyrics (especially with the recent Alex Boyle video). It's a pretty song, musically, but the lyrics are not uplifting. Kind of like Frozen is spectacular visually, but lacking in content--when you stop to pay much attention. Thank you for being a voice of discernment in our crazy world!

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  179. A. It took you WAY too long to get to you point, it just kept repeating over and over very vague that there was a gay agenda.
    B. The examples are so far fetched it almost laughable, you could insert any issue a girl coming of age goes through and give reasons why this movie is about that particular agenda.
    C. You mention a lot how Christian values are not being held in the movie, Guess what the whole world doesn't have Christian values, so what makes you think Disney does or should uphold your own personal values?

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  180. I feel sorry for how much you don't know. Please, get to know some LGBT individuals and learn that we just want love and acceptance. The only "agenda" that the LGBT community is trying to push is one of acceptance. If you think that accepting a lifestyle which does no harm to anyone involved is wrong, then you really are as sheltered as Elsa was in the beginning of the movie.

    In her own words, "Let it go!" :)

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  181. I cannot believe that you have actually diluted yourself into this kind of thinking. It is people like you that make is harder and harder for me to be LDS. Never in a million years would I want to share ANYTHING in common with you, let alone a religion. I would rather my child watch Will and Grace re-runs than read any of the crap you post on this blog. Just know that while on your quest to "expose the truth" in a DISNEY movie, you are driving more and more people away with your ignorance, bigotry, and paranoia. So good job, every member a missionary and all that.

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